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  is jws really growing or only natural increases from kids.?

  by mP in

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  firstly yes we all know most jw bornins leave but a quarter give or take continue.

  im going to argue that this is the only source of any increase.

  those that leave are barely replaced if at all by new recruits in third world countries.

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  I've found too, that even those few who seem to come in from outside always have a JW background or relative somewhere in their past.
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  ....And what if it IS the truth????

  by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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  what next???

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  What if it's the truth? But that would assume that God chose the Society in 1918, according to the Society's teaching, and here's why that is logically impossible:

  If it is the truth, than what was taught in 1918 was false, because almost every teaching has been changed/altered/abandoned since then. But if what was taught in 1918 was false, God would have had no reason to inspect and chose the Bible Students as His people.

  On the other hand, if what was taught in 1918 was true, and God did chose them, than what is taught now is false, and the Society has abandoned truth and turned into the Evil Slave class.

  So either way, there's no possibility that the Watchtower's current teachings are the truth, just from this one single point of reasoning on their own doctrine of being chosen.
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  Phone call from the local JWs this evening...

  by Jim_TX in

  1. jw
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  gosh i wish i was better at having religious discussions with jws.

  this evening, as i am at home trying to relax, i get a phone call from the local jws who are evidently sitting in their kh dialing out.. i got this man who starts off by asking me if he can ask me a question.

  "okaaaaay..." i say slowly.... "do you think..." he starts... and then stops... obviously losing his place in his pre-prepared sermon....

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  She said she believed the Dead Sea Scrolls were part of the original writings of the Bible? Than I wonder how many times she read the Book of Enoch...
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  Sex Before Marriage

  by Wishididntknow in

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  how many witness couples percentage wise do you think slip up and have sex before wedding day?

  did you?.

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  We both waited. Never went beyond kissing.... although we both also indulged in other, uh, frowned upon solo adventures after our dates.
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  How the house of cards comes crashing down, in the WTS' own words.

  by poopsiecakes in

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  "rejecting or trivializing the genesis account about adam and eve creates a domino effect that undermines nearly every major teaching in the bible!

  such a way of thinking leads to a host of unanswered questions and a faith with nothing to stand on.".

  footnote: "these include teachings about gods sovereignty, human integrity, good and evil, free will, the condition of the dead, marriage, the promised messiah, a paradise earth, gods kingdom, and many others.".

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  "Similar findings have led other scientists to believe that a global flood is a distinct possibility ."

  People should ask why the geologists making these findings aren't the ones supporting the flood theory.
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  Tell me---We all have regrets about being in the organisation,what's yours?

  by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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  what is/are your regrets?

  do u wish that you'd have pursued something or dealt differently with a situation?.

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  I regret not making real friends when I had the chance.

  I regret not pursuing activities I enjoyed, especially when I was in college.

  I regret not following my curious instincts sooner, it would have saved me years of internal turmoil.

  On really bad days I regret being basically forced to marry at a young age, but other days she's the only thing I'm thankful for.
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  Troy Barnes should be Disfellowshipped

  by I Want to Believe in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  anyone else watch community?

  i love the show, and it just happens to have the only openly jw lead character in the history of tv.

  but whenever they'd bring up that troy was a jw i'd cringe a little, back then because how easily he would go against those beliefs and now because of how innocent they make it out to be.

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  I wonder if any elders use Troy as an example: "See? This is what happens when you go to college, even community college!"
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  Troy Barnes should be Disfellowshipped

  by I Want to Believe in

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  anyone else watch community?

  i love the show, and it just happens to have the only openly jw lead character in the history of tv.

  but whenever they'd bring up that troy was a jw i'd cringe a little, back then because how easily he would go against those beliefs and now because of how innocent they make it out to be.

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  Anyone else watch Community? I love the show, and it just happens to have the only openly JW lead character in the history of TV. But whenever they'd bring up that Troy was a JW I'd cringe a little, back then because how easily he would go against those beliefs and now because of how innocent they make it out to be. So I think they should have Troy's secret worldly ways come out to his family and have an episode where he's disfellowshipped and all the crazy other things that being a hardcore JW entails, much like they did with Pierce's religion. It would be a great expose, and there's endless comedy to be had from JW tomfoolery.

  I wonder if the show's producers accept spec scripts?
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  You would return to Jehovah's Witnesses if...

  by Shawn10538 in

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  2. bible

  someone else suggested this so i just figured, ok let's do it.. 1. all present jws died and i became the sole leader of the entire religion.

  2. then i would dissolve the religion and burn every last memory of it ever existing.

  3. all books would be burned, all buildings destroyed.

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  ..if I woke up and 7 billion people were dead, and then the Archangel Michael personally walked up to me and said "last chance." I'd ask him if the new scrolls mentioned going to endless meetings to hear the same dozen talk outlines for eternity, and also if I could have a pet alligator instead of a lion. Oh, and also if I could be the one to study with Anne Boleyn in the resurrection, so I could hear her side of the story. Depending on his answers I might consider going back.
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  Going out with a collective bang?

  by slimboyfat in

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  i've been thinking recently that i should just disassociate from the jws and be done with it.

  i've been straggling along for over ten years now without believing it so it's probably about time i made a clean break and moved on.. but i really detest the fact that the announcement at the kingdom hall no longer makes any distinction between those who are disfellowshipped and those who disassociate themselves.

  what a sleekit way for the organization to disguise the fact that many people choose to leave of their own accord rather than being thrown out for supposed wrongdoing.

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  I've been dreaming of using a 5-minute TMS talk to lay out an airtight argument and only at the very end does it all come together against the Society. After which I would announce myself out, leave my Bible on stage and walk out. That LittleToe actually did so in a public talk is amazing.